I’d rather have the picks than flotsam we have to move.yeesh. thats it for him? we can't even get a human body for 2023-24 outta this?
Krapsnaps Bazingas is gonna do that (until he gets injured and ruled out for the season)Are the picks gonna guard Embiid and Giannis next season?
uh... new to the NBA? He's a RFA they could have signed for nothing, three 2nds is a big haul relatively speakingThat’s it? Wtf
RFA isn’t an UFAuh... new to the NBA? He's a RFA they could have signed for nothing, three 2nds is a big haul relatively speaking
And I posted it in the other thread, but the cost at the trading deadline to add useful role-players to a contender was 5 2nd round picks (that was the price for Crowder, and I believe for Payton as well). This many 2nd rounders definitely has some value, and a decent chance we never actually draft anyone with these picks.uh... new to the NBA? He's a RFA they could have signed for nothing, three 2nds is a big haul relatively speaking
yeah that's why we got anything at all, ignoring the entire history of RFA trades is silly. You never get top assets back, a TPE and 2nds is good return. (also can use the MLE hypothetically, but probably won't.)RFA isn’t an UFA
I want banners not marginal assets
The Celtics weren’t gonna, and should not, match this kind of offer sheet, so what would the alternative play be?RFA isn’t an UFA
I want banners not marginal assets
When the entire league knows they aren't going to bring him back it's essentially the sameRFA isn’t an UFA
I want banners not marginal assets
Can someone explain this to me? My read is that star players will still be as valuable than ever and the effect will be more depressing salaries of the middle class of players than the max guys. The smaller the contract delta between vets and rookie deals, the less valuable a rookie is as compared with a vet.I don’t know what people expect to get in a sign and trade lol.
Seconds are more valuable now than ever, with the new CBA. Brad is loading up on assets for a reason.
I didn’t/don’t know if that’s true. If it is, then I take back my objectionWhen the entire league knows they aren't going to bring him back it's essentially the same
Grant didn’t really play at all the last 30-35 games or so last season, so…So this leaves our three playable bigs are 2 injury-prones and an old guy
Is he still improving? I feel like the past two years we saw of Grant are about the max of what he will be.I might've been fine keeping Grant at 4 / $53 ($12.5 AAV), he's still young and improving. But we are definitely close to maxed-out on the cap, so I didn't really expect to retain him anyway, and getting something for him is nice.
You thought with already paying around 170m to 10 guys, Brown about to get a big raise, Tatum getting one soon, and KP likely getting an extension that they were going to pay Grant that contract?I didn’t/don’t know if that true. If it is, then I take back my objection
I'm a little surprised that Brad didn't want to keep him at that price. BUT he racked up plenty of DNP-CDs last seasonAre the picks gonna guard Embiid and Giannis next season?
It's the same set of bigs they've had the past two years, only replace Grant with Porzingis. Even factoring in some Horford decline, that's an improvement.So this leaves our three playable bigs are 2 injury-prones and an old guy
I question whether second apron penalties (the worst of which are a year away, albeit one with a couple extensions still to be done) hurt more than losing Grant.I just don’t see how they carry a player like him at 13M AAV with their salary structure and the specter of the second apron restrictions.
So this leaves our three playable bigs are 2 injury-prones and an old guy
It's also... not the end of the off-season.It's the same set of bigs they've had the past two years, only replace Grant with Porzingis. Even factoring in some Horford decline, that's an improvement.
Grant’s absence is gonna be more of an issue in the regular season, if one that they can mitigate, but, as we just saw, I don’t see that showing up in the playoffs. If they ever needed real minutes from him in the playoffs, then it would mean shit went off the rails.I question whether second apron penalties (the worst of which are a year away, albeit one with a couple extensions still to be done) hurt more than losing Grant.
We will see what rest of the plan is; Brad has done a very good job and so we will see what the vision is. Pat Bev was a nice backfill, and understand why the timing didn’t work. They now probably can sign a taxpayer MLE guy (Oubre?) and have the exception, which could be useful or could be another Muscala.
But I do recognize the challenge tax-wise. This move was largely built in to the KP acquisition, and my guess is Brad would say (not wrongly) that the playoff upside of this roster has gone up.
It's probably the Clippers' fault. (Mostly kidding.). If they are able to move Brogdon I wonder if this goes differently.I question whether second apron penalties (the worst of which are a year away, albeit one with a couple extensions still to be done) hurt more than losing Grant.
We will see what rest of the plan is; Brad has done a very good job and so we will see what the vision is. Pat Bev was a nice backfill, and understand why the timing didn’t work. They now probably can sign a taxpayer MLE guy (Oubre?) and have the exception, which could be useful or could be another Muscala.
But I do recognize the challenge tax-wise. This move was largely built in to the KP acquisition, and my guess is Brad would say (not wrongly) that the playoff upside of this roster has gone up.
I somewhat lament the lost chance to have a nice $13 mil salary for matching purposes but what can you do.I just don’t see how they carry a player like him at 13M AAV with their salary structure and the specter of the second apron restrictions.
Kornet is plenty usable until spring.So this leaves our three playable bigs are 2 injury-prones and an old guy
I’d put it differently——Grant had a real role to play against certain matchups (like Giannis) regardless of how well the other bigs are playing. He also is a lot more flexible defensively than the other bigs. Those things matter in the playoffs, which are hugely matchup-driven.Grant’s absence is gonna be more of an issue in the regular season, if one that they can mitigate, but, as we just saw, I don’t see that showing up in the playoffs. If they ever needed real minutes from him in the playoffs, then it would mean shit went off the rails.
They added a guy from Latvia that could help out with thisAre the picks gonna guard Embiid and Giannis next season?