2014 Draft Game Day 2

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soxfan121 said:
With all due respect to Mr. Brady, we're gonna keep fielding a football team after he decides to hang 'em up.
 
Obviously his clock is ticking, but I think he'll play more than two more seasons. This is too early and too high unless Brady is almost done. Then I'll have something else to be pissed about.
 
soxfan121 said:
I bet Brady hated the Cassel pick, the O'Connell pick, the Hoyer signing, the Mallet pick and this pick equally. He's a competitor and this is competition.
No, not equally. This was the highest pick and therefore had the best players passed up. This pick is going to help the team win games less than a lot of picks made after it.
 
It's going to be completely fair to compare Garoppolo to all the second and third rounds picks after drafted after him. Chances it looks good have to be low.
 

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I had a long, long post detailing everything I think was wrong with the pick and I just deleted it.  It's not worth it.  Anyone who follows college football should be able to know it was bad as they watch immediate impact players get picked one after another while we sit around with our thumbs in our ass.  The Pats are SO DAMNED CLOSE to winning a Super Bowl right now, and this pick did nothing, not one thing to help in that regard.  If Tom Brady gets hurt and JG plays a game this year, the Pats aren't winning shit.  If he gets hurt and JG plays next year, the Pats aren't winning shit then either.  Had they filled a couple of the holes that they needed to fill and caught lightning in a bottle, they could win the Super Bowl.  That's the bothersome part.
 
Man, normally I love BB's trolling.  Fucking love it.  It's one of my favorite things about him having him as our coach.  I've questioned maybe 2 moves since he got here, but this one hurts today.
 

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DrewDawg said:
My god, I hope BB drafts another QB in the 3rd round and walks up to the podium himself to announce it.
 
Aaron Murray is still on the board, just waiting for BB's call.
 

 
By the way, who watches the draft in a Denny's?
 

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I don't get the love for Nix, he didn't dominate in college, he has huge weight and conditioning issues, injury issues last year and into the spring.
Admittedly I think I only saw him play 4 or 5 games this year but he seemed to lose his feet easily and was SLOW in chasing down runners, I wonder if he's a good enough athlete for the next level.
Not all that shocked he continues to drop.
 

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wibi said:
You could say this about every team in the NFL with almost every backup QB.  It doesnt make Mallett more special to other teams
Who said he's special? He's just going to try and sign somewhere that a HOF QB isn't starting
 

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If a mod can move the mountains of posts from here to there, that'd be great. (Nip's request).
 
It would be a shame if some of these posts weren't easily searchable in the archives several years from now, wouldn't it? Either way.
 

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Remember when the pats were the team wheeling and dealing all over draft boards? That was fun. Watching San Fran move around is making me sad.
The 49ers came into this draft with a million picks they almost had to move around with deals.  They almost couldn't use them all.
 

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That's a door, not a window.  I hope you don't have this same sort of confusion of openings in regard to C-sections.
 
I decided its satirical content outweighed its obvious inaccuracy. 
 
As for C-sections, I stay in a Holiday Inn Express EVERY NIGHT.
 

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In a lot of ways this discussion is similar to the GFIN threads, where I sometimes wonder whether people who purport to be Pats fans have paid any attention over the last decade or so. Kraft and BB are not ready for this run to be over when Brady is eventually done. Is this new guy the heir apparent? I have no fucking clue. But I also have no issue with them drafting QB early if they think he might be the guy. They have a 36 year old starter and a backup in the last year of his deal who won't be back. QB makes a ton of sense if you are looking long term versus 1-2 year window.
 

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Deathofthebambino said:
Dog or whoever, you can move my last post.  I can't copy and paste here because I'm on IE.
that's even more ducked up than the pick itself. Who uses ie? Who Is holding you hostage? Is this some weird techy bondage torture stuff?
 

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Rough Carrigan said:
The 49ers came into this draft with a million picks they almost had to move around with deals.  They almost couldn't use them all.
I know. The miners are kind of taking it to an extreme this year but it still makes me miss the years when the pats had ammo to wheel and deal. It was fun times.
 

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SMU_Sox said:
that's even more ducked up than the pick itself. Who uses ie? Who Is holding you hostage? Is this some weird techy bondage torture stuff?
 
It's DOTB. He just gave up his AOL subscription a year ago and probably still has a VCR.
 
I have a VCR. 
 

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SMU_Sox said:
that's even more ducked up than the pick itself. Who uses ie? Who Is holding you hostage? Is this some weird techy bondage torture stuff?
 
The best part is the idea that ie means he can't copy and paste.
 

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Honestly, I don't remember most of my passwords or email addresses for most of the sites I use, so I use IE because I don't have to worry about it.  :)
 
And for those not paying attention, turn on the Sox game now.   Even if you are taping it.
 

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Reverend said:
 
I don't like the pick but mostly because I know nothing of this guy. Just checked and the cap savings to cutting Brady in 2017 is $9m--wonder if drafting a QB this year was part of the plan all along?
 
Of course, that doesn't explain round 2 except: Because Tavon Wilson.
 
I don't think it matters if he's good or not. Good QBs are taken almost every year. It doesn't help now, and he may never start a game. That's the problem. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Brady played through Graoppolo's contract, or if a great positional player was drafted just after him.
 
Jurrell Casey and Julius Thomas were drafted just after Mallett. How'd that work out? 
 

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Deathofthebambino said:
Honestly, I don't remember most of my passwords or email addresses for most of the sites I use, so I use IE because I don't have to worry about it.  :)
 
And for those not paying attention, turn on the Sox game now.   Even if you are taping it.
 
Why? What's so special about what's going on in that game? Is it something interesting or rare?
 

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phragle said:
 
I don't think it matters if he's good or not. Good QBs are taken almost every year. It doesn't help now, and he may never start a game. That's the problem. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Brady played through Graoppolo's contract, or if a great positional player was drafted just after him.
 
Jurrell Casey and Julius Thomas were drafted just after Mallett. How'd that work out? 
 
Hey, I really thought it would be an O-lineman, so I hear you.
 

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Deathofthebambino said:
Dog or whoever, you can move my last post.  I can't copy and paste here because I'm on IE.
Dude, you are on IE and earlier you wrote the words "Marshall Faulk just made a good point".  -2
 

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phragle said:
 
I don't think it matters if he's good or not. Good QBs are taken almost every year. It doesn't help now, and he may never start a game. That's the problem. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Brady played through Graoppolo's contract, or if a great positional player was drafted just after him.
 
Jurrell Casey and Julius Thomas were drafted just after Mallett. How'd that work out? 
Well, John Moffitt (already retired) was drafted right after Mallett.
 

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The most generous take on the Garoppolo pick is that Bill is planning to burn high picks on QBs over the next few years to increase the odds of getting a legit Brady heir. Unless, of course, they hit with Garoppolo.
 

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Stitch01 said:
Who said he's special? He's just going to try and sign somewhere that a HOF QB isn't starting
 
Read back through the thread ...
 

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DrewDawg said:
 
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet  39m
Patriots source explained on Garoppolo, they need to find Brady’s replacement at some point. He’ll be 40 during Jimmy G’s deal. Is this it?
 
At some point in the near future TB is gonna hit the wall, like most late 30 athletes do. Even Jetes got old and fell apart after a strong year in 2012. I got no problem being proactive on this front drafting a possible successor to TB.  Whether JG is the right guy is another question.
 

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“@nfldraftscout: Teams I talked to were very concerned about Louis Nix injury and social media use.”
 

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I'd have a lot of respect for that move if they brought them in only because the staff sergeant was going to call a guard.
 

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Reverend said:
 
Why? What's so special about what's going on in that game? Is it something interesting or rare?
 
And the tool on MLB Network said "This would be easier if it was 3-1 and not 8-0".
 
Yes, tell me more about how Darvish would be tossing a perfect game if it was 3-1.
 

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Deathofthebambino said:
I had a long, long post detailing everything I think was wrong with the pick and I just deleted it.  It's not worth it.  Anyone who follows college football should be able to know it was bad as they watch immediate impact players get picked one after another while we sit around with our thumbs in our ass.  The Pats are SO DAMNED CLOSE to winning a Super Bowl right now, and this pick did nothing, not one thing to help in that regard.  If Tom Brady gets hurt and JG plays a game this year, the Pats aren't winning shit.  If he gets hurt and JG plays next year, the Pats aren't winning shit then either.  Had they filled a couple of the holes that they needed to fill and caught lightning in a bottle, they could win the Super Bowl.  That's the bothersome part.
 
Man, normally I love BB's trolling.  Fucking love it.  It's one of my favorite things about him having him as our coach.  I've questioned maybe 2 moves since he got here, but this one hurts today.
 
I agree with you on the pick itself----there's legit players who could help now out there.   I realize Pats are always thinking about the long-term, but I'd have needed to see a huge value in order to like a QB pick in the second today.
 

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Eric Ampersand said:
The most generous take on the Garoppolo pick is that Bill is planning to burn high picks on QBs over the next few years to increase the odds of getting a legit Brady heir. Unless, of course, they hit with Garoppolo.
 
Well, I'd think the most generous is that Garoppolo IS that guy.