2015 Dolphins: Fire the Lazor!

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Per @ArmandoSalguero, Odrick's reported deal with the Jaguars makes six straight Dolphins 1st-rounders not to get a second contract. Crazy.

That is crazy, but they've also resigned guys like Hartline, Reshad Jones, and Misi. Clay is a guy they would like to resign, and Tannehill and Pouncey are two first rounders that they'll certainly be looking to resign as well.
 
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 Dolphins work thus far today: 
 
- Brandon Fields deal restructured, reportedly 1 million saved in '15.
- Shelly Smith cut, freeing 2.75 million cap space.
- Phillip Wheeler officially cut. Most likely a post-June 1st cut, saving 3 million this year, but not affecting FA spending.
- S Michael Thomas and LB Kelvin Sheppard re-signed.
 
In other news, Starks is rumored to be cut soon, Clay will be visiting the Bills, and Suh's deal has yet to be announced.
 
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none are surprises, but the most interesting news is that they haven't locked down a safety or CB yet. Perhaps they are waiting on the Clay offer?
 
Signing Suh is great, but it only makes sense if they are able to attract the other defenders to fill out the defense
 
MEanwhile, it seems highly likely that Wallace comes back.
 
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Fins reportedly targeting Jordan Cameron as their Charles Clay replacement. Cameron was really good in 2013, but was derailed last year by concussions. If he can be on the field and avoid further concussion issues, he's probably a better player than Clay. I would not hate that move.

Edit: Jordan being brought in for a visit. If he can be had for 5 million, thank Clay for his services and take the two million in savings.
 
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agreed. 
 
so they look for RBs, WRS and LBs in the draft (very deep draft for all three). they still need to find 2 CBs and a FS. and maybe a DE. 
 
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Definitely. Starks was a beast for a bunch of years for Miami. Looks like it will be Suh and Mitchell this year.
 
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not a huge surprise, he will end up on the Pats...
 
so now need:
a DT to go alongside Mitchell and Suh
two WRs (Wallace, Landry and Matthews only guys on roster)
a RB (need a big back to replace Moreno)
a TE (to replace Clay)
a ILB (to allow flexibility for Misi and replace ellerbee and Wheeler)
two corners (to replace Finnegan and Wilson at the nickel)
a FS (to replace delmas)
 
edit: I forgot they kept AJ Francis, so the need to replace starks isn't immediate. they need to find a rotational guy
 
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When your last title was during the Nixon Administration, you kinda can't be hanging these kinds of signs anymore.
 
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And I wonder how many team employees are left that actually worked for the team when they were champions. 
 
When Frankie the long-time assistant equipment manager retires and there's only one left, they'll have to take the S from "Champions" and put it after "Work." 
 
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And I wonder how many team employees are left that actually worked for the team when they were champions. 
 
When Frankie the long-time assistant equipment manager retires and there's only one left, they'll have to take the S from "Champions" and put it after "Work." 
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Pats visit at least once every year.
 
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Fins reportedly targeting Jordan Cameron as their Charles Clay replacement. Cameron was really good in 2013, but was derailed last year by concussions. If he can be on the field and avoid further concussion issues, he's probably a better player than Clay. I would not hate that move.

Edit: Jordan being brought in for a visit. If he can be had for 5 million, thank Clay for his services and take the two million in savings.
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Ditto on Randy Starks. He didn't earn his money this past season, and I understand the team's decision, but I really liked Starks as a player. 
 
I also like Cameron -- he's more of a seam threat than Clay -- but concussion issues are no joke. At anytime, boom! Season and/or career over. Clay is also a more of a balanced TE. He's a decent blocker and terrfic receiver.  Camerson's much more of a receiving-only TE, albeit better than Clay in that particular area.
 
I want Clay, but he's not worth a considerable overpay.
 
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The #Dolphins gave CB Brice McCain a 2-year deal that can be worth $5.5M with $3M guaranteed. He made $815K last year
 
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This is a quality, under-the-radar addition. McCain had a strong season last year; he could end up being a terrific slot CB addition. Reportedly super fast  and agile.
 
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Depending on what they do with Tannehill, Suh and Tannehill could combine for 30% of the cap next year. they could give tannehill a long-term contract with big signing bonus and reduce that, but, yeah, its not good. 
 
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Jordan Cameron in Miami today.

Cameron would be a great add. He's a better receiver than Clay. Maybe a worse blocker, but Clay isn't a great blocker and Dion Sims is a tremendous blocking TE.

Tannenbaum was also quoted as saying that Dion Jordan can be used as either and end or a Sam in a 4-3. At least they're publiclly acknowledging the possibility of moving him.
 
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Miami is reportedly interested in Evan Mathis.

The obvious parallel between Miami and Philly is Dion Jordan. Hope that's not what happens.
 
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Cameron signed with cleveland, two years and $15M. Clay still hasn't signed his offer sheet, may be some correlation there?
 
Mathis to Miami is not likely to happen unless Miami can ship salary out. Mathis is a one year contract with $5.5M
 
Right now I have no faith in the front office plan. The top four or five safeties and top 6 CBs are gone. I'm fine with the DT situation even ex Starks but this premise that players would follow Suh seems like a bunch of BS. 
 
Needs: RB (draft), TE (FA), WR (draft and FA), OG (draft or trade), DE (draft or FA), ILB (draft or move guys), FS (FA), CB (draft and FA)
 
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Wow, that's interesting. I hope the numbers are lower than first reported. And I guess this means Clay's a no-go?
 
CC, Landon Collins might be the answer -- and he'll be there at 14. I know many fans want/assume a WR, but he'd be an immediate plug and play in the secondary.
 
Awesome talent.
 
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Source confirms Dolphins are "making progress" with TE Jordan Cameron. Deal likely would result in removal of tag from TE Charles Clay.
 
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Would this mean Clay is a FA and free to sign with anyone?
 


 
Correct -- Dolphins would forfeit the right to match any offer.
 
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I wonder if Clay will regret not signing that tag number. It's late now, a lot of the money is spent.
 
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Wish Miami's cap guru could find a way to add Cameron and bring back Clay. Jordan's practically a WR anyway. I'd be fine rollin' with Wallace-Mathews-Landry in '15 with that setup. 
 
I'm smokin' the good shit, though. Even without considering that the Fins are high on (cheap) Dion Sims, the money surely isn't there. 
 
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This offseason has been a complete roller coaster. Wow. It sounds as if Miami had Jordan in, and was trying to hammer out an extension with Clay at the same time. They probably felt they were close to getting a deal done with Clay and that's when they Jordan to Cleveland news likely popped up. Then the extension with Clay may have fallen through and they immediately went back and pounced on plan B, because it sounds like Jordan never left Miami. This all all total speculation on my part, but these reports have been all over the place.
 
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Sounds as if Miami is still trying to keep Clay despite signing Cameron...

Wow.

Edit: Beaten to it. You want to talk about matchup problems all over the field? Yikes. I have no idea how the dollars will work.
 
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Let's just say they hypothetically find a way to make Clay and Cameron work...

Miami has the athletic, dynamic playmaker in Clay and the big target in Cameron that the offense has been lacking for a while. The first thing that pops into my head is a poor man's Gronk and Hernandez.
 
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Let's just say they hypothetically find a way to make Clay and Cameron work...

Miami has the athletic, dynamic playmaker in Clay and the big target in Cameron that the offense has been lacking for a while. The first thing that pops into my head is a poor man's Gronk and Hernandez.
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 Love the idea, I just can't figure out how to make it work financially. 
 
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 Love the idea, I just can't figure out how to make it work financially. 
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Cuttinf Ellerbe should about do it, if they can get Cameron a bit cheap year one. Seems like they are 2009 Jetsing right now, because next year is going to be a mess.

Actually maybe Ellerbe and another small cut somewhere else. Cutting Ellerbe would put them about 10 under their adjusted cap number before Cameron.
 
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BTW, Ellerbee has $3M guaranteed for next year due to his injury. only way to rid themselves of that is to trade or restructure him.
 
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sodenj5 said:
Let's just say they hypothetically find a way to make Clay and Cameron work...

Miami has the athletic, dynamic playmaker in Clay and the big target in Cameron that the offense has been lacking for a while. The first thing that pops into my head is a poor man's Gronk and Hernandez.
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As expensive Suh was, at least he's an elite talent. Paying Cameron $15m for 2 years is a severe overpay.
 
He only caught 57.1% of the passes thrown his way (58th out of 67 TEs with 25% snaps played) compared to Clay's 71.6%. Cameron was completely ineffective as a run blocker -- which is a problem as his value is very dependent on his production as a receiver. 
 
One good thing going for Cameron -- led all TEs with 17.7 yards per catch. 
 
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As expensive Suh was, at least he's an elite talent. Paying Cameron $15m for 2 years is a severe overpay.
 
He only caught 57.1% of the passes thrown his way (58th out of 67 TEs with 25% snaps played) compared to Clay's 71.6%. Cameron was completely ineffective as a run blocker -- which is a problem as his value is very dependent on his production as a receiver. 
 
One good thing going for Cameron -- led all TEs with 17.7 yards per catch. 
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I agree it's an over-pay, but, unfortunately, that's the market at the moment. If Cameron's getting 7.5, what is Clay asking for? There's not much else available; though, I would have been fine if the Fins added Chandler and went with he and Sims.
 
The real mistake was not signing Clay earlier. He would have been good for 3.5-5 per year if Miami hadn't waited until FA. They made the same hiccup with Hartline several years ago.
 
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Having Cameron down the seam and Wallace outside will really open the underneath for Landry and the other WR. And Clay if that happens. I'd love to see them add a great pass catching back now. Spiller?

Still waiting on a FS. And CB.
 
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I agree it's an over-pay, but, unfortunately, that's the market at the moment. If Cameron's getting 7.5, what is Clay asking for? There's not much else available; though, I would have been fine if the Fins added Chandler and went with he and Sims.
 
The real mistake was not signing Clay earlier. He would have been good for 3.5-5 per year if Miami hadn't waited until FA. They made the same hiccup with Hartline several years ago.
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It's definitely a seller's market for TE's. There aren't a lot of good guys available and there's a really thin draft. That's how it goes sometimes.

Sounds as if Miami is definitely still in play for Clay. Wonder when we'll have a resolution.
 
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That's a great get for the Dolphins.
 
Benson family getting ready to sell, with the owner's illness?
 
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