#DFG: Canceling the Noise

Is there any level of suspension that you would advise Tom to accept?


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H78

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GregHarris said:
Harbaugh has been quoted several times in the past few days saying that they didn't notice anything wrong with the balls.

An actual quote, not an off the record reply from someone near to the team.
But the thought isn't that he said he noticed anything wrong with the balls in his game to the media. People think he said something to Pagano*.

*His idiot fall boy.
 

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H78 said:
But the thought isn't that he said he noticed anything wrong with the balls in his game to the media. People think he said something to Pagano*.

*His idiot fall boy.
Going to need a little bit more than "people think".
 

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I've been watching the back half of Last Crusade since the PC, and I have to say this is all remarkably similar to when Indy goes after the tank carrying his father.
 

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I have never been so....

Jesus.

Let this be a lesson never to trust the media. On anything.
 

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snowmanny said:
How many people do you think Gallup polls?
 
Not that any ESPN poll/web page poll has statistical validity, but that's not because of the number of respondents.
 
I've got $500 to the Jimmy Fund that 12 hours from now, that poll has at least 40% "don't believe."
 

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GregHarris said:
Harbaugh has been quoted several times in the past few days saying that they didn't notice anything wrong with the balls.

An actual quote, not an off the record reply from someone near to the team.
 
Glazer has a track record of getting stuff out of NFL HQ that they don't want out.
 

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You'd think in the Lester thread we would have realized that the probability that any particular tweet by someone with a source is true is about the same probability, if not less, than would be a tweet from someone who was guessing with no information whatsoever.
 

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So I thought that the NFL was supposed to release a statement today. What the fuck happened there?
 

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drleather2001 said:
So I thought that the NFL was supposed to release a statement today. What the fuck happened there?
 
Just throws the veracity of anything these reporters are tweeting into question, doesn't it?
 

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DennyDoyle'sBoil said:
You'd think in the Lester thread we would have realized that the probability that any particular tweet by someone with a source is true is about the same probability, if not less, than would be a tweet from someone who was guessing with no information whatsoever.
I think Jake Wesley and Jay Glazer/Chris Mortensen/Adam Schefter are in completely different categories in terms of sources and access
 

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Harry Hooper said:
 
Glazer has a track record of getting stuff out of NFL HQ that they don't want out.
Which contradicts a direct quote from the head coach.

Not to mention that this well planed trap has been a cluster fuck from the get go.
 

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Schefter is in a category of his own. He's the best reporter in sports imo. Glazer is a clown with sources and Mort can have a tendency to get emotionally invested and seemingly not fact check, such as with his Brady hates Belichick schtick earlier this year. Schefter is magical; I would not be surprised if he was elfkind.
 

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WayBackVazquez said:
 
I've got $500 to the Jimmy Fund that 12 hours from now, that poll has at least 40% "don't believe."
I'm happy to bet you $500 on something someday, but this seems like a boring choice, so no thanks.
If the poll shifts from 83% to 60%, it won't be because it is more statistically accurate due to a bigger sample size, it will because the demographics of the voters change substantially or new information comes out.
 

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So my 4th-grade son has this teacher he loves, partly because he (the teacher) is a big sports fan. The classroom has pictures of Pats and Red Sox players on the walls, and kids are encouraged to show their team spirit on designated days. Sports are incorporated into lessons and general discussion. Today my son came home with the news that this teacher had made a point of addressing the class about deflate-gate, saying that he believed the allegations and would not be rooting for the Pats going forward. Understandably, this confused and rattled my die-hard son - who of course had been innocently thrilled that his beloved team is going to the Super Bowl. My wife and I had to sit him down at dinner and discuss this with him as if it were something really serious, like 9/11, Newtown or Santa Claus. We tried to frame it in terms of how important it is to avoid jumping to conclusions without having facts, and emphasized that while his teacher is entitled to his opinions it was inappropriate for him to pass judgment.
 
I'm seriously tempted to contact the teacher and/or the school to express my displeasure. Am I an insane fanboy, or am I right in thinking that this was a terrible lack of judgment on the part of an educator who's dealing with impressionable young kids? What is wrong with people???
 

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GregHarris said:
Harbaugh has been quoted several times in the past few days saying that they didn't notice anything wrong with the balls.

An actual quote, not an off the record reply from someone near to the team.
 
It would be incredible karmic justice if Harbaugh ends up being the person who is fined.
 

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H78 said:
Another nugget from the Brady presser - we keep hearing that the Patriots turned in 12 balls. Brady said he actually turned in 24 (presumably 12 of which were the backup balls). In that case, I think it's fair to assume the Colts also turned in 24 balls.

48 footballs. You checked the PSI in each and every one before the game, Walt?
No, read the rules again.
 

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Jesus H Christ
 
https://twitter.com/NEPD_Loyko/status/558417785735614464
 
 
@NEPD_Loyko: So now D'Qwell Jackson says he didn't notice anything different with the ball. This has become an official witch hunt.
 

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ObstructedView said:
So my 4th-grade son has this teacher he loves, partly because he (the teacher) is a big sports fan. The classroom has pictures of Pats and Red Sox players on the walls, and kids are encouraged to show their team spirit on designated days. Sports are incorporated into lessons and general discussion. Today my son came home with the news that this teacher had made a point of addressing the class about deflate-gate, saying that he believed the allegations and would not be rooting for the Pats going forward. Understandably, this confused and rattled my die-hard son - who of course had been innocently thrilled that his beloved team is going to the Super Bowl. My wife and I had to sit him down at dinner and discuss this with him as if it were something really serious, like 9/11, Newtown or Santa Claus. We tried to frame it in terms of how important it is to avoid jumping to conclusions without having facts, and emphasized that while his teacher is entitled to his opinions it was inappropriate for him to pass judgment.
 
I'm seriously tempted to contact the teacher and/or the school to express my displeasure. Am I an insane fanboy, or am I right in thinking that this was a terrible lack of judgment on the part of an educator who's dealing with impressionable young kids? What is wrong with people???
I think you have every right to contact the teacher, for the exact reason that you talk about (i.e. not teaching 9 year olds to pass judgement without enough.... any??.... facts).
 

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LogansDad said:
I think you have every right to contact the teacher, for the exact reason that you talk about (i.e. not teaching 9 year olds to pass judgement without enough.... any??.... facts).
And mention Willie Bennett and Richard Jewell
 

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GlenMorangie said:
Are the Colts/Pagano about to become Severus Snape and the Ravens/Harbaugh Voldemort?
I'd expect the Pats to run up the score on all future Colts games.
 

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GlenMorangie said:
Are the Colts/Pagano about to become Severus Snape and the Ravens/Harbaugh Voldemort?
 
Belichick I guess would be Dumbledore for his public crucifixion. Brady as Potter, of course.
 

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GregHarris said:
Going to need a little bit more than "people think".
What 'people think' hasn't done anything to stop this whole clusterfuck from happening.
 

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Fucking hell, can we at least use Lord of the Rings, not this Nancy Harry Potter bullshit.
 

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Eddie Jurak said:
Jesus H Christ

https://twitter.com/nepd_loyko/status/558418155266375682
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@NEPD_Loyko: So now D'Qwell Jackson says he didn't notice anything different with the ball. This has become an official witch hunt.
 
The Patriots are GUILTY stuff snowballs but this will gain no traction. 
 

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Ed Hillel said:
Schefter is in a category of his own. He's the best reporter in sports imo. Glazer is a clown with sources and Mort can have a tendency to get emotionally invested and seemingly not fact check, such as with his Brady hates Belichick schtick earlier this year. Schefter is magical; I would not be surprised if he was elfkind.
I honestly cannot remember a time where Glazer was inaccurate.
 

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MarcSullivaFan said:
I honestly cannot remember a time where Glazer was inaccurate.
I'm not disagreeing, I just don't like his personality and can't understand why the fuck he's in those Subway commercials.
 

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Tyrone Biggums said:
Edit: Nebraska? Really? I would have thought Maryland or something...Nebraska though?
It blows my mind that even Indiana is blue, all the while being mercilessly flogged by the likes of Doyel and Kravitz
 

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Eddie Jurak said:
Jesus H Christ
 
https://twitter.com/NEPD_Loyko/status/558417785735614464
 
 
@NEPD_Loyko: So now D'Qwell Jackson says he didn't notice anything different with the ball. This has become an official witch hunt.
 
Actually that tweet is pro-Patriots
 

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moondog80 said:
The Colts balls make for a decent control group, and they apparently showed no change.
False. Again, there HAS to be change. It's rhe rules of the universe. The report was that they were within range. Of course, we don't know the conditions of that test.

Oh, and until the NFL speaks, all of these media leaks are just a game of telephone. We don't really know much at all.
 

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LogansDad said:
I think you have every right to contact the teacher, for the exact reason that you talk about (i.e. not teaching 9 year olds to pass judgement without enough.... any??.... facts).
I completely agree.  Critical thinking is one of the most important life skills to pick up from school, and this teacher is going in the wrong direction.
 

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Isn't the Jackson bit an irrelevant detail? He didn't notice but he gave it to someone on the sidelines who did.
 

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Eddie Jurak said:
Hence my quote. This whole "D'Quell Jackson noticed the ball was soft" was BS, yet here we are. Jesus h Christ.
 
Ah, I see. It gets confusing in here