Mr. Chemistry
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Its a bit ironic that an IG post essentially telling people to relax and that its just sports is generating this much criticism here. Not only are you spot on about the reaction of the crowd as well as this thread but its a pretty common sentiment expressed by someone when an internet debate is exhausted. Its even used upthread. It may not be Godwin's law but telling someone to "chill" when you grow tired of a discussion is as classic as a finger roll.
Three seasons ago, at a Cavs game in Boston late in the season. I was on the floor for the national anthem and my friend expressed condolences to Kyrie for Duke getting knocked out of the NCAA tournament. That's what he said.
It's a good thread. This isn't about jilted Boston fans who had already moved on the second they signed Kemba. It's about Kyrie making excuses, stabbing his teammates and organization in the back and refusing to take any responsibility for his actions. He had a million chances to act like the leader he said he was and never did.
Yup, people people were elated that Kyrie was leaving, we would have driven him to the airport and that was before we knew Kempa was coming.
To me the most telling aspect is the way he expresses himself. To be fair, I don't expect any athlete to be a wordsmith, but in Kyrie's case, I think that the poorly written document reflects a man who doesn't think clearly and coherently. Add the fact that he thinks he's smarter than he really is and you can explain a big chunk of the problems he brings upon himself.
He really ought to have taken those classes at Duke seriously.
He really ought to have taken those classes at Duke seriously.
My impression is that he's a fairly smart guy in terms of raw IQ. It's just that his entire life has been basketball, and nothing until last year (or now this one) had ever really forced him to self-evaluate. He's still not there yet.
My prediction is that it will turn out to be a real mental health issue, and I wish him the best in dealing with that. Doesn't mean I have to like the guy.
"don't give no fuck about no fucking Duke" = 2 more words than Kyrie spoke to Mike Gorman over 2 seasons. Your friend has that going for him.
Clearly a person that shows the level of skill and talent that Kyrie does at the basketball court must possess a certain degree of intelligence. But there are different types of smarts and in each of them you have to put the work. He clearly hasn't put a lot of work on the analytical aspect of intelligence or that aspect isn't that strong with him. Then there's the other thing. He says a lot of things he thinks are profound that are really trite. I can't help going back to the flat earth episode. There's a chance that he said it seriously and then backtracked in lieu of the backlash with a bs explanation. But if we take what happened at face value, his explanation about testing the media hype machine or whatever was sophomoric. There's a lot of that with Kyrie.
Beyond that, I agree there's a good chance there are mental issues in which case he has my sympathies unequivocally.
Beyond that, I agree there's a good chance there are mental issues in which case he has my sympathies unequivocally.
He quit on the Celtics in that series. Plain and simple. The hero ball chucking, picking up Giannis, lazy ass jogging back on defense, etc.
The Kyrie sucks chants felt a bit like Yankees suck chants... obsessive on a negative instead of the positive in front of you. I thought one solid Where Is Kyrie chant would be fitting and certainly (before the game) a Kemba is Better (especially so with him nearly dropping 40 coming off of a significant injury scare) would have been far better.
As enjoyable as it has been to root against him this year, while enjoying the current version of the Celtics, I’m ready to move on and just focus on the positives of this team again.
As enjoyable as it has been to root against him this year, while enjoying the current version of the Celtics, I’m ready to move on and just focus on the positives of this team again.
Yep.
That was one nice day of releasing the bad chi from last season. Seems a bit over the top now, but it also landed (the diatribe is proof). Time to close the book and focus on the guys that are here. This team is a joy to watch.
I thought the "Kyrie sucks" and Where is Kyrie?" chants were perfectly appropriate. We've heard Brad, Danny and Kyrie's former teammates speak about and around the failed Kyrie experiment in less than clear prose. This was the the first time since KI's exit where fans could voice their opinion and without a p/c filter. Let's call it an honest expression and a cathartic moment for a big slug of Celtic fans. He earned the derision. And seeing that Kyrie no-showed this date he may be targeted again if he takes the court in March. Beyond that it gets silly.
And fuck the MFYs.
And fuck the MFYs.
Oh and anyone that would consider booing Al Horford needs to immediately turn in their fan card. That man deserves everyone’s respect on and off the court.
No kidding. If he came and owned it, for one night, then this would likely go away--at least a lot. Boston fans are assholes, but they're also smart fans. Come, drop 35 points, lead your team, then give some quote after the game how the crowd was like he remembered he was just on the other side, and then---let it go.
Instead, he somehow made it worse. But, whatever--let the Nets and their fans deal with it now.
Folks comparing it to a bad breakup need to realize we just traded up.
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I don't mind them at all. I find booing and you suck chants to be appropriate fan behavior. However, certain fans do absolutely cross the line such as the fan Marcus got involved with and the Celtics fan that said horrible stuff to Cousins. No place for that.
The "MVP" chants for Marcus Smart w/the mop were hilarious and just goes to show most of the cheering/booing is just pure silliness. I always found it comical when the MFY fans screamed: "who's your Daddy" at Pedro. or "1918" which was directed at Red Sox fans. It's sports, that's what you sign up for as a fan.
While I don't care for the "Kyrie sucks" chants, it's really no big deal. It's what Kyrie signed up for when he pulled his nonsense.
Kyrie has issues, I'll be shocked if he showed up for the next game in Boston. I always expected him to shut it down early this season anyways.
The Garden will probably give Horford and Baynes warm receptions if for nothing else but to tweak Kyrie.
While I don't care for the "Kyrie sucks" chants, it's really no big deal. It's what Kyrie signed up for when he pulled his nonsense.
Kyrie has issues, I'll be shocked if he showed up for the next game in Boston. I always expected him to shut it down early this season anyways.
The Garden will probably give Horford and Baynes warm receptions if for nothing else but to tweak Kyrie.
Someone forgot to tell Dinwiddie, Allen, Harris, Prince, Temple and Atkinson. These Nets, ex-Kyrie, will make the playoffs. It's actually a nice group of hardworking, veteran, role-player types.The Nets aren’t shutting down Kyrie, they’re tanking.
+1. Although there will be some delayed gratification boos happening when the Nets return to the Gahhhden.
Plus, I'd rather not go too far overboard in tweaking the karma gods; the Nets will be a different team next season.
When it comes to the karma gods and Kyrie, I don't think there is anything Boston fans could do short of like murdering Kyrie that would put them on the Nets side
The best part of this is the Cs staying above it. Smart in particular has sounded professional. His take that there was not enough info to understand, show maturity on his, or his media coach's part. This is one of many reason's I want Smart to stay with the Cs.
4-7 with Kyrie, 6-2 without.Well, yes, when Kyrie’s out they’re definitely a playoff team.
It’s not hard to see why, watching them. They pop the ball around in a way a Kyrie-led team would have a hard time doing.
This article is mostly guesswork but if it’s accurate, it sounds bleak for Kyrie’s season at the least.
https://nypost.com/2019/12/04/kyrie-irvings-shoulder-injury-seems-way-worse-than-expected/?utm_campaign=iosapp&utm_source=pasteboard_app
https://nypost.com/2019/12/04/kyrie-irvings-shoulder-injury-seems-way-worse-than-expected/?utm_campaign=iosapp&utm_source=pasteboard_app
The conspiracy theorist in me thinks that Kyrie was never really planning on playing much this year without KD.
Oh hey, that medical source not affiliated with the team doing the speculating was my ortho.
Two stars miss a bunch of time and a young team holds it together without them. Then, in the following season when both stars are healthy everyone expects a huge step-up from the newly-combined group.
What could go wrong?
What could go wrong?
