The Michael McCorkle "Mac" Jones Thread

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I find it hard to believe that some people are not faster healers than others. Just from the basics of how data are collected, it would be a bizarre result.
 

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Touche. Tho most commonly pointed at the balls for a vasectomy. The injections in the dick guys love as it is way bettrr then viagra

I scolded my friend this am for being scared of a vas while his wife will be undergoing a second C section in early Nov. 20-50 yo guys are the biggest wusses. Check me @DaveRoberts'Shoes @radsoxfan @fiskful of dollars @dixielandbandana
Obviously tubes tied is a far bigger surgery than a vasectomy, but if a scheduled c section is happening why wouldn't you just tie them and skip the snipping?

Other than not wanting to get his girlfriend pregnant of course.
 

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Obviously tubes tied is a far bigger surgery than a vasectomy, but if a scheduled c section is happening why wouldn't you just tie them and skip the snipping?

Other than not wanting to get his girlfriend pregnant of course.
a c section is a sloppy surg. Understandably as their goal is infant safety. Surgically tubal ligation (ya know she is awake right during c section?) is not simple during a casearean
 

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a c section is a sloppy surg. Understandably as their goal is infant safety. Surgically tubal ligation (ya know she is awake right during c section?) is not simple during a casearean
That’s not what my obstetrician buddy tells me. He says he does them all the time when he’s doing a c-section since he’s already in there.
 

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Okay, seriously though.

After today, with the cap space this team has next season…

If Bill thinks he has a few years left in him, does he back the Brinks truck up for Lamar (who shockingly is still only 26 next season) in the offseason (in my fantasy scenario where he’s not tagged), sign/trade for a #1 CB, and see what this team can do working in the trenches and on defense in 2023 and 2024?

I know the answer is no. But if not Lamar, does he start thinking of someone a little more dynamic than Mac with the run game and decent young talent on D?

I think the roster is average, but it’s showing flashes of gelling. I’m starting to wonder if the limiting factor is QB1.
 

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Please Stop with the Lamar stuff. He will be franchised - there is zero chance - full stop.

The team is not moving on from Mac - no matter how many times you call the WEEI whiner line and leave a message for Glenn.
 

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To Welker about Edelman.
Yeah. I wanna say it was a preseason game. And Edelman returned a punt for a TD and BB called up to Ernie Adams to get Pipp’s name. Then he asked Welker if he heard of Wally Pipp and kinda filled him in on the history. And then Welker said something like, he can have it. And BB said something like, nice attitude or way to compete or something.
 

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It's a nice clip for Edelman, but I'm never a fan of the Welker slander. After that clip, Welker would go on to play 4 more years in NE, making the pro bowl each year (and all-pro twice) while averaging 112 catches, 1280 yards and 7 TDs per season. He tore his ACL and MCL in week 17 of 2009 and was back for week 1 in 2010, remarkable. He never quite gets the credit he deserved because of the drop in SB 46, but he's probably the MVP in SB 42 if they hang on. Such is life.
 

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It's a nice clip for Edelman, but I'm never a fan of the Welker slander. After that clip, Welker would go on to play 4 more years in NE, making the pro bowl each year (and all-pro twice) while averaging 112 catches, 1280 yards and 7 TDs per season. He tore his ACL and MCL in week 17 of 2009 and was back for week 1 in 2010, remarkable. He never quite gets the credit he deserved because of the drop in SB 46, but he's probably the MVP in SB 42 if they hang on. Such is life.
BB was just busting balls. I imagine that there's a lot of ball busting in the NFL. I don't think that it was mean-spirited.
 

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BB was just busting balls. I imagine that there's a lot of ball busting in the NFL. I don't think that it was mean-spirited.
I don't mean the initial conversation between Belichick and Welker, he's allowed to be annoyed in the moment by a player not committing 100%. I'm talking about anyone who sees that more than a dozen years later and thinks less of Welker in part because of it.
 

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I don't mean the initial conversation between Belichick and Welker, he's allowed to be annoyed in the moment by a player not committing 100%. I'm talking about anyone who sees that more than a dozen years later and thinks less of Welker in part because of it.
This quote may have some influence as to Welker bias:

“My husband cannot f---ing throw the ball and catch the ball at the same time,"
 

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This quote may have some influence as to Welker bias:

“My husband cannot f---ing throw the ball and catch the ball at the same time,"
Right, I think that if anyone has any ill feelings toward Welker (and they really shouldn't), they're rooted in the dropped pass in the SB and maybe his knocking of Talib out of the first Denver-Pats AFC Championship game. I can't imagine anyone cares at all about the Wally Pipp exchange (other than to find it amusing).
 

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Right, I think that if anyone has any ill feelings toward Welker (and they really shouldn't), they're rooted in the dropped pass in the SB and maybe his knocking of Talib out of the first Denver-Pats AFC Championship game. I can't imagine anyone cares at all about the Wally Pipp exchange (other than to find it amusing).
There's some fascination with the fact that Edelman did end up taking his job (and completing one of the most famous catches ever in a SB), but I can't imagine that anyone has big beef with Welker. It's just kind of funny.
 

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And that pass in the SB was behind him. Certainly catchable, but it didn’t exactly hit him in the numbers either. #preachingtothechoir

edit- I don’t care if there is evidence to the contrary- as my grandfather used to say “My mind is made up, don’t confuse me with the facts .”
 

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I'll post it in the ticket swap forum, but figured I'd get more eyes if I posted here too. I've got 2 tix available for Pats/Lions Sunday, Section 129 (roughly 30 yard line, visitor's side), 21st row. I believe face value is $213/each, which is all I'm asking (ticket pricing is hard to find right now, as everything is online, but if it turns out they are cheaper, I will refund you). Shoot me a PM if you want them.
 

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Week 2 of analyzing a Zapruder film of Mac warming up at practice. This week his feet are moving, he is doing light drop backs and stepping into throws to some degree. We'll see if he's graduated to limited participation in practice. Bill told reporters he is anxious to get them the injury report.

(also no Hoyer)

View: https://twitter.com/MikeReiss/status/1577701257002815491?s=20&t=Efw5JWkCFJsv1oF9KbHsXg


I thought he didn't end up doing anything except stand around last week?
 

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Certainly seems to be a disconnect between:
-how the injury looked
-initial reports of “severe high ankle sprain”

AND

-no surgery
-walking on it a few days later
-maybe playing in and NFL game 2 weeks later


I prefer Mac playing to Hoyer or Zappe of course, but these are not exactly injuries to mess around with so I hope they are being cautious (and this sprain is a lot milder than initially reported).
 

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Yeah, sorry, poor wording on my part. I wonder if he'll graduate from DNP to Limited this week.
No, this was aimed at the tweet saying he had more zip on his throws than last Friday. I thought he just stood there. That's why this thread had the whole digression on if you could get hurt just standing around.
 

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No, this was aimed at the tweet saying he had more zip on his throws than last Friday. I thought he just stood there. That's why this thread had the whole digression on if you could get hurt just standing around.
He was lightly tossing with Hoyer and Zappe last week.
 

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Mac out again this week, wonder if playing next week is a a realistic option.

I'm sure med staff would feel better pushing the envelope if he had tightrope done for some extra stability....

I hope Mac and his team are right that this could be a 4 week or less non op recovery, otherwise not having surgery looking a bit questionable.
 

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Mac out again this week, wonder if playing next week is a a realistic option.

I'm sure med staff would feel better pushing the envelope if he had tightrope done for some extra stability....

I hope Mac and his team are right that this could be a 4 week or less non op recovery, otherwise not having surgery looking a bit questionable.
He is listed as doubtful - so I assume he will be out and Zappe will start but it’s not a 100% out at this time unless I missed it reported somewhere

View: https://mobile.twitter.com/PhilAPerry/status/1578484374659825664
 

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Makes sense that Wynn's hip is acting up, since he was mostly a turnstile last week.
 

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BB was just busting balls. I imagine that there's a lot of ball busting in the NFL. I don't think that it was mean-spirited.
I don't mean the initial conversation between Belichick and Welker, he's allowed to be annoyed in the moment by a player not committing 100%. I'm talking about anyone who sees that more than a dozen years later and thinks less of Welker in part because of it.
I think BB is dead serious. I know the main reason why people prefer Edelman to Welker is the super bowls but there is a large difference in personality. You think Edelman every says no to BB, EVER not a shot in hell. Edelman is the patriot way. Tough SOB, kept his mouth shut, and dominated in the playoffs. Edelman wouldn't make foot jokes a week before a playoff game and get himself benched. I hate the word gritty guy but the was freaking nails especially in the playoffs.

Him retiring a Patriot and seeing the love he has for BB compared to how Brady's changed makes me love him even more.
 
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How often does doubtful turn to playing. 2%?
Couldn’t find anything reputable enough to link to, but believe the betting community views Doubtful as 25% or less likely to play. At one point I thought teams were actually held to account on the percentages but can’t find good link there either. @&$) Mondays.
 

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I think BB is dead serious. I know the main reason why people prefer Edelman to Welker is the super bowls but there is a large difference in personality. You think Edelman every says no to BB, EVER not a shot in hell. Edelman is the patriot way. Tough SOB, kept his mouth shut, and dominated in the playoffs. Edelman wouldn't make foot jokes a week before a playoff game and get himself benched. I hate the word gritty guy but the was freaking nails especially in the playoffs.

Him retiring a Patriot and seeing the love he has for BB compared to how Brady's changed makes me love him even more.
Would you say Edelman is a good little foot soldier?
 

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Has Dov Kleiman never listened to BB answer a team/player question before? Chances of BB answering that question with a "no" is quite remote.
 

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Has Dov Kleiman never listened to BB answer a team/player question before? Chances of BB answering that question with a "no" is quite remote.
Exactly and it wouldn't stop any speculation either. Belichick also knows these questions come up with different players as well so he prefers to be consistent. Makes sense to me.
 

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Couldn’t find anything reputable enough to link to, but believe the betting community views Doubtful as 25% or less likely to play. At one point I thought teams were actually held to account on the percentages but can’t find good link there either. @&$) Mondays.
That's what I recall as well, although I thought it was the directive from the league, not the betting commnunity's inference.
  • Doubtful = 25%
  • Questionable = 50%
  • Probable = 75%
 

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That's what I recall as well, although I thought it was the directive from the league, not the betting commnunity's inference.
  • Doubtful = 25%
  • Questionable = 50%
  • Probable = 75%
This is dated though. The Probably distinction went away years ago. But maybe 25/50 still applies to the doubtful / questionable.
 

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Good article here on what the Pats are doing with Zappe.

tl;dr: they are doing what they did early last year with Jones.

After Further Review: How the Patriots Changed the Offense for Rookie QB Bailey Zappe
That's a great article. I found this part most interesting, and spot on imo:

Ultimately, the Patriots want to compete for championships. Although five interceptions outweighed the positives from Jones's first three starts, the direction they were moving in had the bigger picture in mind that a low-risk offense wasn't competitive against elite teams in the NFL...If the Patriots want to compete with the Buffalo's and Kansas City's late in the season, New England needs a playmaker at quarterback. It's good enough to beat the Lions at home when the defense pitches a shutout, but it won't be good enough against better opponents.