Why Do I Continue to Read Peter King?

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This was my favorite

I reminded him about all the teams that graded him down because of neck and back concerns coming out of Arizona before the 2010 draft, and how amazing it is that in his second season he's on the verge of breaking a pretty illustrious record.
Because, you know, Gronk was unaware of any of this until PK reminded him of it
 
This was my favorite

Because, you know, Gronk was unaware of any of this until PK reminded him of it
Ha. I got a kick out of that. Instead of writing, "I asked him about..." or "I mentioned about..." it's "I reminded him about...". Just a silly little matter of semantics but it makes him look so pompous.

Btw, did anybody catch this last week? Peter King starts rumor about his BFF, then squashes it. That's a pro's pro right there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPFhecImZBU
 

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drleather, I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter. well done, sir.
Thank you. It generally comes out on Mondays, usually before noon.

If/when "For Better or Worse" starts up again (which is doubtful), I may publish more often.
 

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A comedy of errors (but I'm not laughing) led to this column being posted so late today. I regret making you wait.

I've caught a little bug in the last few days somewhere, and I've been trying to fight that off. I had to travel for a story early this morning, flying out of JFK at 6:55 a.m., and so at about 1:30 this morning, I lay down to sleep for three hours, unusual for my Sunday night. Woke up at 5. Rushed to get ready, got in the car to the airport and in five minutes discovered two very bad things: I left my cell phone in the car, and my flight, which I was told would have WiFi, did not.

Now that's what I call a great start to a day.

So I got on line quickly at the airport, tweeted my delay, informed my editors I was an idiot, and, with two hours of work left on the column, finished it on the plane and sent upon landing.

I can't figure out why I have this splitting headache.
Boiled Down: "After getting up early to catch a flight (something with probably 100,000 people had to do this morning), I had two hours of work to do. I did it on the plane, and sent it in more-or-less on time. I'm a big shot so I can afford to fudge deadlines a little bit. Oh, and I left my cell phone in the car too. I have what I feel to be is a difficult life."
 

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Boiled Down: "After getting up early to catch a flight (something with probably 100,000 people had to do this morning), I had two hours of work to do. I did it on the plane, and sent it in more-or-less on time. I'm a big shot so I can afford to fudge deadlines a little bit. Oh, and I left my cell phone in the car too. I have what I feel to be is a difficult life."
You failed to mention that he did all of this while staving off a little bug.


 

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Peter once again explains football to someone who has forgotten more about it than PK will ever know

I told Crennel when he watches the tape, I thought he'd see a defense that played as hard as any in football Sunday. "I'm glad you noticed that,'' he said. "That's what I felt down on the field."
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i. Who needs wideouts? Aaron Hernandez and Rob Gronkowski played like big wides Sunday: 13 catches, 182 yards. Amazing when the best tight end in football (some would argue) plays Best Supporting Actor to his backup in a very big game.
Peter is right that Hernandez, as the less heralded player, had the bigger game. But in his quest to make the point, he ignores that Hernandez and Gronk play the same position in name only and are on the field at the same time for huge chunks of every game. Details....
 

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Last week: Tebow - maybe the best story ever!
This week: Patriots looked good, that Tebow guy didn't do all that great. Maybe 20 words on it total.

No interest in breaking down how the best story ever got throttled by a much better team? Was it really a statement by the Pats, or was Tebow just not ever very good? And now the Broncos defense is a sieve?

It just shows that PK and the media in general were totally just playing along for page views and giving people what they thought they wanted. No one who knew anything about football was all that impressed with Tebow, but "the fans love him!" so let's talk about it. Now that he's a goat and it's clear he can't pass from the pocket against the worst passing defense in the history of passing defense, everyone's quiet as a mouse. Blech.
 

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Good reporting this morning, Gerry Dulac, of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. Dulac has Ben Roethlisberger playing tonight in San Francisco.

REWIND.

4. Pittsburgh (10-3). Will Ben Roethlisberger play? Someone Who Should Know told me Friday, "No way." But I'm also told he really wants to play tonight. Stay tuned.

Good reporting, Gerry Dulac! Way to help Peter contradict himself in a completely oblivious fashion!
http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2011/12/peter-king-declares-week-15-the-league-leader-in-interestingness.html
 

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10. Playing on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, which I'm not a fan of. No one asked me, but why couldn't the NFL keep the Thursday game intact, have Friday the 23rd -- today -- be the 14-game normal late-season gameday, with the Bears and Packers tonight on NBC, then the Saints and Falcons playing as normal on Monday the 26th? There are too few family days and nights on all of our calendars, and crashing the NFL schedule on the 24th and 25th is, to me, crass.

WHO WILL THINK OF THE CHILDREN?
 

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why couldn't the NFL keep the Thursday game intact, have Friday the 23rd -- today -- be the 14-game normal late-season gameday


Cause people work, jerkbag.
 

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Poor Peter King has to work on Christmas Eve. I hope he'll be able to get over it when he takes his yearly four straight weeks off in June/July.

For a guy who constantly tells readers how lucky he is to have his job, he sure bitches about it enough.
 

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Poor Peter King has to work on Christmas Eve. I hope he'll be able to get over it when he takes his yearly four straight weeks off in June/July.

For a guy who constantly tells readers how lucky he is to have his job, he sure bitches about it enough.
The implicit assumption in his position that people will improperly choose football over family brings a sliver of joy to my cold, black heart.

How do you feel about your complicity in family wrecking, Mr. King?? You know damn well the reason is money, Mr. King, and money trumps children--can you feel the black taint upon your soul??
 

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4. New England (13-3). Not to rain on the Pats' top-seeded parade or anything, but foes threw for 4,703 yards on New England this year. That's so bad it's almost scandalous -- 1,348 more yards in the air than the Patriots allowed in 2009.
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I love how PK talks about the "cool play" Brad Seely thought up without referencing/knowing that the Pats ran that play a couple of times in the past (where Seely coached previously) and that BB has talked about the play before and where he first saw it run on one of the America's Game specials.
 

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I don't know how King can criticize Ron Winter's crew for missing the face mask on Tebow and neglect to mention blowing the whistle on the backward pass/fumble, which was an infinitely bigger mistake.

Ron Winter: How'd you miss the facemask call on Tebow with 1:51 left in regulation ... a penalty that would have given the Broncos 1st-and-10 near midfield with the best long kicker in football waiting to win the game in regulation, in altitude?
 

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King saying Brees' season was the best stat season for QB ever.

I'm a Brady apologist, but YPA was the same, Brees higher in completion % but with fewer TDs and more INTs, and a QB rating (i know) 7 points lower than Brady. Not to mention Brady's team went 16-0.
 

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He's been beating the Brees drum for the last month or so. "Best QB over the last 5 years" and the like.

His argument(s) have merit, but I think he's overplaying them. The Brees/Rodges/Brady comparison (both this year and for a longer period of time) demands a Joe Posnanski level analysis, and King's not really interested in doing that. He's now a New Orleans fan (both the city and the team), and doesn't make much effort to hide it.

But yea, we get it: Peter King, you fucking LOVE Drew Brees!
 

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King saying Brees' season was the best stat season for QB ever.

I'm a Brady apologist, but YPA was the same, Brees higher in completion % but with fewer TDs and more INTs, and a QB rating (i know) 7 points lower than Brady. Not to mention Brady's team went 16-0.

Brees also gets the benefit of more indoor games.
 

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I don't know if this is really egregious or awful or anything... but it was weird to see, and it made my head hurt thinking about PK saying it. From his twitter
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RT @MrRaider1: Rumors going around about Gruden coming back to Oakland, any truth? ... Not happening. Grude-dog on ESPN at least 1 more yr.

Grude-dog? Really? Wha? Did I miss something?
 

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Well...If I recall, there was a brand of clothing in the late 1980s/early 1990s called "Rude Dog" that was quite popular.

I'm guessing this is not a coincidence.
 

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In this week's installment of Peter King, Football Expert

After New England's 45-10 beat down of the Tebows in Foxboro, Vince Wilfork agreed with me that the Patriots were in better shape at this stage of the playoffs than they were after their undefeated season.
 

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GOOD POINT ON RUNNING IT UP.​
"After seeing you tweet Saturday night, I was surprised Von Miller wasn't listed in the Ten Things You Don't Like. I have a Von Miller related question: Why does no one take Belichick to task for his running up the score on opponents? I don't mean to argue against it on grounds of sportsmanship, but rather I think it is terrible coaching. Right or wrong, Von Miller-type late hits will happen when you intentionally try to embarrass opponents (I truly believe that is Belichick's intention). Why put your guys in a situation where they will get suspended (from the view I saw, Pat Chung should be for straddling and punching a grounded Bronco on the sideline) or injured (Brady still in on the final drive) when you have an insurmountable lead? Right or wrong, sportsmanlike or unsportsmanlike, Belichick often puts his team in a bad situation with nothing to gain at the end of blowouts. From my view, it is only a matter of time. What do you think?''


-- Taylor, Miami

I've agreed on that for a long time, going back to some of those 2007 blowouts. It's why so many fans (and many in the game) don't like Belichick. I said Saturday night it was wrong to have Brady in for the last two series of the Denver game, and I stand by it.


LOLBOOHOO

These people should just admit they're openly rooting for Patriots injuries.

And I still await the column/blurb attacking the Saints for 'running up the score' this season. Oh, right, we like them. This is my biggest problem with these clowns: they claim to not like BB and the Patriots BECAUSE OF their 'tactics', when in fact they attack the Pats for their 'tactics' BECAUSE they don't like them. The chain of causation is being misrepresented, so they can prove to others and perhaps themselves that they are 'objective' and 'not anti-Patriots'.

But I'm sure children everywhere appreciate this strident upholding of the principles of sportsmanship.
 

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Ya, I can't believe Belichick hasn't gotten more grief for scoring 3 points in the last 25 minutes of that game. What an asshole! I prefer my indignation to be a little more righteous and based on, you know, what actually happened.
 

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Yep, punting on third down = running up the score. Totally logical.

Have to expect that opposing players will get upset and attempt to injure your players. Shameful job.

EDIT - As a matter of fact, Von Miller is a hero.
 

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I don't understand why the haters are crowing about Brady playing the entire game. It wasn't like he was slinging the ball around and trying to run up the score. He had a total of 7 pass attempts in the 3rd quarter, and they had a first and goal very early in the 4th quarter and he didn't even attempt to throw for the TD as they settled instead for a FG. He then threw only one more pass the rest of the game: a short pass from his one-yard line to Branch.
 

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I don't understand why the haters are crowing about Brady playing the entire game. It wasn't like he was slinging the ball around and trying to run up the score. He had a total of 7 pass attempts in the 3rd quarter, and they had a first and goal very early in the 4th quarter and he didn't even attempt to throw for the TD as they settled instead for a FG. He then threw only one more pass the rest of the game: a short pass from his one-yard line to Branch.
Do you want children all across the nation to think that not inserting your backup QB into blowout games is permissible or, worse, morally justifiable? To learn that in a brutally violent game in which many former players suffer its life-long effects, not letting up completely according to settled customs is good? To learn that an organization that otherwise stands for everything else these people want to pimp about sports is not tainted by the fact they don't conform to these customs?

No, I didn't think so.
 

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So when Brady plays the entire game, he's an asshole. When Rodgers sits out a game, he's rusty. What is the magical amount of playing time for these Monday Morning Quarterbacks?
 

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If Von Miller does block Connolly in the back, this isn't an issue. Which, by the way, it isn't to begin with
 

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And another thing, Belichick left Brady in for an important reason: to show everyone else on the team that the even the megastar QB is not exempt from having to play the entire game, blowout or otherwise.
 

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To learn that an organization that otherwise stands for everything else these people want to pimp about sports is not tainted by the fact they don't conform to these customs?
This is one of the keys for me. The Patriots is arguably the consumate professional sports franchise in the nation. Hell, Belichick benched Welker for taking shot at another coach.

The "running up the score" thing, then, might be one of the few examples out there where anyone argues that highly paid professionals should do their job as just that: professionals.

This ignores the fact that to accuse them of running up the score last week, you have to argue that they were running up the score in the first half. Woof.
 

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So when Brady plays the entire game, he's an asshole. When Rodgers sits out a game, he's rusty. What is the magical amount of playing time for these Monday Morning Quarterbacks?

64.723%...duh. Don't you pay attention?

The QB has to play the first half, but if the game is out of hand he cannot play more than 2 run heavy drives into the 2nd half. What the FUCK! Don't you guys pay attention!?!1?
 

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Not to mention with King's own harping on an on about the patriots terrible defense, and his continued insistence that the pats have to outscore everyone, it's pretty fucking hypocritical of him to complain now.
 

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LOLBOOHOO

These people should just admit they're openly rooting for Patriots injuries.

And I still await the column/blurb attacking the Saints for 'running up the score' this season. Oh, right, we like them. This is my biggest problem with these clowns: they claim to not like BB and the Patriots BECAUSE OF their 'tactics', when in fact they attack the Pats for their 'tactics' BECAUSE they don't like them. The chain of causation is being misrepresented, so they can prove to others and perhaps themselves that they are 'objective' and 'not anti-Patriots'.

But I'm sure children everywhere appreciate this strident upholding of the principles of sportsmanship.
My favorite part about this? By choosing an email that posits the completely absurd notion that no one takes Belichick to task for running up the score (Are you kidding me? It's the default criticism of the guy when there's nothing else to whine about), King gets to pat himself on the back as the only one who sees the light.

I said Saturday night it was wrong to have Brady in for the last two series of the Denver game, and I stand by it.​

Good lord, Peter. That's incredibly fucking brave of you.

That's the kind of approach small town op-ed columnists take- it doesn't matter to their little paper that the story is years old and beaten into the ground. But King is maybe the most well-known football writer in the country. Hell, that's why he's able to get away with it.
 

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It all stems from when he wrote a ridiculously over the top piece right after the spygate news broke. He has been cut off from the organization ever since then. He even said on twitter he has not spoken to Belichick since 2007.
 

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To build on Yaz's point: how is it possible that the players not doing their jobs, getting trounced, and then just taking cheap shots out of frustration are being granted the moral high ground here? That's insane.
 

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I think the simplest reason for "running up the score" is the fact that among the most difficult and frustrating losses for Belichick-Brady era came in games(2006 AFC Championship and 2009 vs Indy) where the offense got out to a big lead, didnt execute down the stretch and ended up losing. We saw it again this year at Buffalo. So its reasonable to conclude that Belichick has simply decided that no lead is safe and will always make every effort to score points at least until its time to kneeldown.

I used to look forward to MMQB every week but feel that since his increase visibility on SNF and the new NBC network, he's sort of become more conveyor of conventional wisdom rather than an insider who breaks news.
 

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I also think there's real value in executing plays in game situations to see how they work, or simply to practice them.

Putting Hoyer in does nothing beneficial for the team except make them look like nice guys. Having Brady and the offense practice particular sets has obvious benefits that can't be replicated with the practice squad: loud crowd, pissed off defenders, playoff jitters, etc...

To suggest that they should stop playing real football is to ask them to do, in most circumstances, a disservice to themselves and their fans. Why should they do that? So people rooting for the other guys aren't quite as embarrassed?
 

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There is really no good argument that you should put in a backup quarterback when your starter is healthy IN THE GODDAMNED PLAYOFFS.
 

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There is really no good argument that you should put in a backup quarterback when your starter is healthy IN THE GODDAMNED PLAYOFFS.
Especially when you're making a BFD out of the fact that the Packers might have had too long a layoff. Maybe keeping the team in fine fiddle by keeping the starters in and going a little conservative is worth the risk of injury or looking like a bad sport.
 

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Well, I had nothing better to do, so I encapsulated the discussion here into a question and sent it off to PK in an email. I doubt I get a response.

One of the things I pointed out is that the drive which ended in Brady's punt started inside the 10 ... not the place to put in a backup QB. I also asked how scoring 10 points in the second half was running it up. Again, I doubt he has the gonads to respond, even should the email make it out of the slush pile
 

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He will counter that the question is not them running it up, but leaving the starters in and risking injury.

Then he'll ignore your points.

Thanks for doing that, though!
 
And of course there's the fact that football players are professionals who take pride in their work. Is there any other profession where people are chastised for beeing *too* successful at their job?

Boss: "Great job with your work on the Fluxbridge Account, Johnson -- our company now has record profits! Unfortunately, I'm afraid we're so successful that it's embarrassing our competitors. I want you to take a sabbatical while I replace you with our laziest worker. He'll squander your hard work and drag our company down to a more respectable level."

(Of course, this could explain why Peter King likes to drone on and on about his daughter's field hockey games, "craft" beers and coffees, and whatever minor annoyances he may run into in his dream job. He doesn't want to make the other football writers look bad!)
 

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He will counter that the question is not them running it up, but leaving the starters in and risking injury.

Then he'll ignore your points.

Thanks for doing that, though!
My wife wanted to respond to one of his coffee points once, so we wrote him an email. He used it, got my first name wrong, then wrote that we had to be wrong because his regular barista at Starbucks said so.

"What a jerk," my wife said
 

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Yes, his approach is to couch his distaste for their practices in a concern for the Patriots' welfare/self-interest; i.e., he'll always fall back on 'it's a dumb thing to do', when it is abundantly clear he really just doesn't like what they're doing.