Didn't you see the Super Bowl? He sucked. Maybe it's time to cut our losses and move on. Let's move him for a 4th rounder and turn the offense over to O'Connell.Brady washed up?
O'Connell is a pompous Mormon?we just got our Steve Young I guess....
http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/kevin-o'connell?id=371Compares To: MATT CASSEL-New England...O'Connell is a more mobile passer, but like Cassel, he is going to need time and patient coaching to add technique and mechanical refinement. He is a rare-sized athlete with great mobility in the pocket, but his delivery is a mess and his footwork leaves a lot to be desired. He forces a lot of throws and needs generate better touch on his short-area throws and improve the zip on his deep passes. If a team preaches patience and has an established veteran in place to allow O'Connell several years to develop, he could be a good one. Rushing him, however, might render any pick used on O'Connell a wasted selection.
The kid seems like a good athlete, but not a Matt Jones level athlete. Jone's was a couple tenths better in the 40 yard dash. And Jones has struggled badly making the transition at the NFL level.ESPN flashed his rushing stats as they announced the pick, so I wonder if they looked at his athleticism in a Matt Jones-type role.
Lots of late round picks on most teams never stick.This pick sucks.
Does anyone feel that recently the Pats just make a number of reaches or wasted picks as we get into the latter rounds? Look at last year's draft after their first few picks. None of those guys stuck.
Yeah...the only diffence is Steve Young was a stud in college...stud.we just got our Steve Young I guess....
I feel like I hear this about almost every pick the Pats make. Their big board must be radically different from everyone else's. This does seem like a wasted pick considering there are still players available who can actually contribute to this year's team without first needing the starter to get hurt.Problem is...they could have had this guy much later.
He said the guy that was drafted was better than Wes Welker and everyone else disagreed.Carter wasn't "dissing" Welker, he was being realistic. Welker IS NOT a star WR. He is a complimentary player, albeit, a very good one. The star WRs are #1s and Welker isn't a #1.
I think part of the reason none of the picks last year stuck was simply because they team was so good and had so much depth, there was no place to put them.This pick sucks.
Does anyone feel that recently the Pats just make a number of reaches or wasted picks as we get into the latter rounds? Look at last year's draft after their first few picks. None of those guys stuck.
Problem is...they could have had this guy much later.
Anyone know what San Diego gave up other than a 5th and their 3rd for the Pats 3rd? Probably nothing else I guess.
They didn't give up their third. They gave up their second round pick in 2009.Anyone know what San Diego gave up other than a 5th and their 3rd for the Pats 3rd? Probably nothing else I guess.
Uh, the Chargers did not give us a third, they gave us their 2nd next year. They had 3 3rds and traded one out.Anyone know what San Diego gave up other than a 5th and their 3rd for the Pats 3rd? Probably nothing else I guess.
BTwnDreamin, none of those guys stuck with the Pats because there weren't many spots available for rookies because they were very deep last year. ALL of the Pats selections from last year are still playing in the NFL. In fact, a couple of the OL started games last season. I think it was a solid draft but there just wasn't room for them because they weren't going to make the team over the vets that we had.This pick sucks.
Does anyone feel that recently the Pats just make a number of reaches or wasted picks as we get into the latter rounds? Look at last year's draft after their first few picks. None of those guys stuck.
Problem is...they could have had this guy much later.
Well, yeah, not right away. Seems to me this is a purely long-term pick (or trade bait).Is this kid really going to be that much of an upgrade over Gutierrez? I mean, if Brady goes down we're fucked anyways, so why burn a third round pick on someone who is irrelevant? What a waste that was. If you're going to waste a pick, why not see if Manningham can not be a douche bag?
Right, but we're talking about 3rd and 4th rounders...and a number of reaches. A number of late round picks also branch out. The Pats have made a lot of selections on QBs over the years since we took Brady and it seems they never really are sold on those picks. But to grab a guy here is a head scratcher. Hey I'm not the GM nor can I say BChick doesn't know what he's doing but it still makes you wonder. My point is, don't you think this guy would have been available in the 4th round or even the 5th (possibly)?Lots of late round picks on most teams never stick.
Chad Jackson will finally get his chance to not be a douche bag this season.Is this kid really going to be that much of an upgrade over Gutierrez? I mean, if Brady goes down we're fucked anyways, so why burn a third round pick on someone who is irrelevant? What a waste that was. If you're going to waste a pick, why not see if Manningham can not be a douche bag?
I'm flummoxed.Is this kid really going to be that much of an upgrade over Gutierrez? I mean, if Brady goes down we're fucked anyways, so why burn a third round pick on someone who is irrelevant? What a waste that was.
I guess because QBs are high value, but low percentage. So you have to draft 50 from rounds 2-7 to get a hit. More chances, and when Bishop, Cassel, Gutierrez don't pan out, get another lottery ticket.Is this kid really going to be that much of an upgrade over Gutierrez? I mean, if Brady goes down we're fucked anyways, so why burn a third round pick on someone who is irrelevant? What a waste that was. If you're going to waste a pick, why not see if Manningham can not be a douche bag?
Suund about right. Always hoped Cassel would be our Shaub... didn't work out that way, unless he lights it up this preseason.Mayock gives us the best theory yet: They can't hold on to Cassel all the way until Brady is done and has his contract up after this year, and they need an heir or at least a good #2. Cassel gets moved after this year and O'Connell becomes that guy, and not a bad year to do this because they've already addressed their biggest needs.
True but it wouldn't hurt to have some depth at the Ex-Douchebag position.Chad Jackson will finally get his chance to not be a douche bag this season.