snowmanny said:
I call it an over reaction. I wouldn't be shocked if they still were the #1 seed come January.
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I call it an over reaction. I wouldn't be shocked if they still were the #1 seed come January.
snowmanny said:
The Orange Mane is a disaster as well. John Fox seems to be target #1, #2 and #3.
So what happened with Denver yesterday? From what I saw, it looked like their O-line was manhandled.
Was St. Louis' defensive performance duplicable or was this more a function of them being loaded at DL?
Eagerly awaiting the FC article
Was St. Louis' defensive performance duplicable or was this more a function of them being loaded at DL?
Eagerly awaiting the FC article
It seems like the Pats exposed the o-line a bit during their game. I saw the rams do that stunt right up the middle that the pats did and it worked several times. It doesn't get easier for Denver. They face Miami this week, and that d-line has a really good chance to dominate up front.
lambeau said:
J. Thomas is also expected to be out, and I'd be surprised if Emmanuel Sanders is playing. Concussion is probably the best he could have hoped for there, he could have broken his neck.
Can't run the ball, have one legitimate passing threat, Manning may get killed.
I didn't see the game, and ESPN has been light on info regarding these injuries. Aside from knowing that they occurred, can you provide any details as to what the injuries appeared to be (it sounds like one head injury and one _________?). Internet seems oddly quiet, considering how quickly they had Bradshaw updates.Ed Hillel said:
edit: Holy crap, I found a video. Sanders is lucky he is alive: http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2014/11/16/watch-emmanuel-sanders-concussion-nasty-hit-rodney-mcleod/30903/
Some pretty harsh words from Mark Schlereth on the Broncos o-line in a recent interview:
Pretty hilarious stuff. Its rare that a former player, especially a real media analyst with a clear fondness for his former team, just trashes guys like this.
Pretty hilarious stuff. Its rare that a former player, especially a real media analyst with a clear fondness for his former team, just trashes guys like this.
Interesting comments, hope he's right. Note his use of "we" when referring to the Broncos.Morgan's Magic Snowplow said:
I think a big part of the problem is that Clady is looking like another potential career victim to the Lisfranc. He's looked terrible most of the season, and has even lost his spot at times. The difference between arguably best LT in the game to one of the worst has really hurt that team. I'd be shocked if he wasn't cut after the season, given the structure of his contract.
The rest of what you're saying may be correct, but the bolded isn't. Clady's played every snap in 8 of 10 games, the only exceptions blowout wins over SF and OAK.Ed Hillel said:
He's right in that no one is better at avoiding sacks than Peyton. It's one of Manning's best abilities.Marciano490 said:
Super Nomario said:
I should have been clearer, he's been shifted over to RT to deal with the weaker rushers at times. Last week, they moved Louis Vazquez over to LT in the second quarter, I believe it was, because Clady kept getting burned by Quinn. Granted Quinn is awesome, but he had his probably his best half of the year against Clady.
I don't think PFF distinguishes snaps at positions, just lists the starting position.
And with a real knowledge of these positions and the wherewithal to communicate it. He may strike some as a Neanderthal, but Schlereth knows o-line play cold.
I think he's disgusted, deeply worried and not covering for Manning.
I think he's disgusted, deeply worried and not covering for Manning.
I don't think this is right - Googling doesn't pull up anything, and I just spot-checked the all-22 and didn't see any cases where they swapped Clady and Vazquez. Again, that doesn't invalidate your point that Clady has been a disappointment.Ed Hillel said:
This is true.Ed Hillel said:
Clady has been pretty weak, but the current disarray may have more to do with RT, where they are trying Louis Vasquez as th third man up after failures by Chris Clark and Paul Cornick, both now benched.
http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2014/10/19/broncos-start-paul-cornick-right-tackle-vs-49ers/30384/
In fact it was the Patriots who got Cornick benched, after he initially did poorly against the 49ers.
Trying to find an O-line (sound vaguely familiar?), the Broncos have now moved Manny Ramirez from center to RG, freeing up Vasquez, and given Peyton a new center --Will Montgomery.
http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2014/10/19/broncos-start-paul-cornick-right-tackle-vs-49ers/30384/
In fact it was the Patriots who got Cornick benched, after he initially did poorly against the 49ers.
Trying to find an O-line (sound vaguely familiar?), the Broncos have now moved Manny Ramirez from center to RG, freeing up Vasquez, and given Peyton a new center --Will Montgomery.
That's weird, during the broadcast I thought they said Vazquez had switched over to LT and I swear they showed him on the left side. I remember asking in the game thread if Clady had been benched after they showed it. Maybe it was another shuffle on the line and I just missed Clady.
@MikeKlis: Emmanuel Sanders is practicing Julius Thomas is out here with helmet but not participating
@MikeKlis: Emmanuel Sanders has been cleared for physical activity yesterday afternoon- not sure about independent doctor clearance for contact
well we are 10-3 and that great but as of now i see no way we can beat NE SEA GB because going all-in on the running game takes him out of rhythm but passing all the time and we lose to teams like the rams
we match up better with seattle now because with our new power game we couild win 17-14 aga them i think feb 1 but i been wrong more than ML Carr in the mid-90's
but without homefield i see no way we can beat NE at NE Denver cant cover TE'S and we c'ant win a shootout with brady as of now denver only shot is if the ravens win the north win the 5/4 game beat NE @ NE and Denver gets the 2 Seed beats INDY and then Balt
we match up better with seattle now because with our new power game we couild win 17-14 aga them i think feb 1 but i been wrong more than ML Carr in the mid-90's
but without homefield i see no way we can beat NE at NE Denver cant cover TE'S and we c'ant win a shootout with brady as of now denver only shot is if the ravens win the north win the 5/4 game beat NE @ NE and Denver gets the 2 Seed beats INDY and then Balt
j-man said:
What's the scuttlebutt in Denver or among Denver fans about Peyton's last few games? Are people blaming it on injuries to him or the receiving corps, weather, age, a few bad games, etc?
Marciano490 said:
That's a good question Marciano. Not just the last few games, but what is the overall feeling right now? 2012 was Peyton's first year there, everyone was pysched, they got the 1 seed, won a bunch of games, scored a bunch of points, people weren't too mad when they lost because they would be even better in 2013. 2013 rolls around, they set all kinds of records, get the 1 seed again, make it to the Super Bowl, people are still happy because they got to the Super Bowl and then had a nice offseason to set themselves up in 2014. Now here we are in 2014, they don't look headed toward the 1 seed, people don't have a ton of confidence they will win it all... if they lose in the playoffs again will Denver fans say "enough with the Manning era"? Especially if he goes el busto again?
People here are nervous about it, but it's offset by their confidence in the newfound power running game. Small and biased sample size, but local radio is split between admiting Peyton's diminished arm strength (the pick down the seam intended for Sanders) and ball washing for his ability to swallow his ego and hand the ball off.
I don't hear much but optimism on the local talk radio. The only team that people seem a little scared of is the Pats in Foxboro.
People here really can't ball wash Manning enough. There's no chance people will turn on Manning. It's not the Boston media or Boston attitude out here, even a little.
People here really can't ball wash Manning enough. There's no chance people will turn on Manning. It's not the Boston media or Boston attitude out here, even a little.
I have been listening the last few days and there does seem to be some questions about getting Manning into a rhythm earlier in the game. They are upbeat and not going to turn on Manning but I do sense some concern that he is uncomfortable not throwing the ball very often.
Broncos lock up CB Chris Harris for five years at $42.5M, $23M guaranteed--$18M over the next two seasons. Good deal for the Broncos, and a great one for the fomerly undrafted Harris. He's a baller.
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_27126465/chris-harris-agrees-5-year-42-5m-contract
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_27126465/chris-harris-agrees-5-year-42-5m-contract
Great deal for the Broncos, especially as I doubt that entire $23M is fully guaranteed. I don't think Harris is nearly in the same class as the elite corners like Revis, Sherman, and Peterson. But there are a bunch of more comparable guys who signed several years ago, when the cap was substantially lower, for higher AAVs and probably comparable true guarantees (Brandon Carr, Lardarius Webb, Jonathan Joseph, Sam Shields, Leon Hall). If the Broncos are giving him a $10M bonus but only paying him $18M over the first two years, then they also are likely structuring the deal so that the cap hit next is tiny (3-6M range), which should help them with their upcoming cap squeeze.Rook05 said:
Harris definitely took a hometown discount.
Glad to have that settled and could allow Elway to cut Talib if they need $$$ for either Thomas or Knighton.
Glad to have that settled and could allow Elway to cut Talib if they need $$$ for either Thomas or Knighton.
Good signing, and not a lot of money for a good corner. I think Harris was the most important of their impending free agents. D. Thomas is probably the best player of the bunch, but Harris plays a position that's hard to replace.
I don't think Denver needs J. Thomas. It's telling that their offense, especially their run game, has improved dramatically without him in the lineup. They are better with all-purpose tight ends like Green than the one-dimensional Thomas. Someone will pay J. Thomas big money, but if they're smart it won't be Denver.
I don't think Denver needs J. Thomas. It's telling that their offense, especially their run game, has improved dramatically without him in the lineup. They are better with all-purpose tight ends like Green than the one-dimensional Thomas. Someone will pay J. Thomas big money, but if they're smart it won't be Denver.
Sox and Rocks said:
Uhm... what? Since Thomas left the game against the Rams, Manning has had arguably his worst 4 game stretch as a Bronco and Denver has averaged 24.8 ppg, as opposed to the 31.8 ppg they averaged in the 9 games prior to his injury. The running game may have improved, but the overall offensive production sure hasn't.