Denzel Washington and Wayne Brady use dust.
http://youtu.be/bONBlJNt0I0?t=3m15s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzB03c6Dc10
http://youtu.be/bONBlJNt0I0?t=3m15s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzB03c6Dc10
Unfortunately this is true and AH has been using off and on since HS. Another note is that his dad used heroin and contracted HIV which contributed to his death. Both things are well known in Bristol. Lastly, a buddy who would know told me that Wallace is one of the worst scumbags in Bristol. His record is 25 years long and he's a bottom feeder. The fact that AH was buddies with him speaks to what a moron AH is. My buddy saw AH around when he was a kid and his take is that Aaron came off as "slow". Combine that with a proclivity to act gangster and PCP laced joints and it's a wonder he ever got to the level he attained.Buffalo Head said:From what the writer said on DP Show, PCP is still prevalent in Bristol
Time was, the Pats were the Tiffany franchise, a team of such sterling moral repute that they cut a player right after they drafted him, having learned he had a history of assaulting women. But Beli-chick, the winner of three Super Bowl titles and grand wizard of the greatest show on turf, had decided long before he got to New England that such niceties were beneath him. Over a decade, he’d been aggregating power unto himself, becoming the Chief Decider on personnel matters. He signed so many players bearing red flags they could have marched in Moscow’s May Day parade (Randy Moss, Donte Stallworth, et al.), and began drafting kids with hectic pasts, assuming the team’s vets would police them. Some of this was arrogance, some of it need: When you’re picking from the bottom of the deck each spring, you’re apt to shave some corners to land talent.
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No, there was zero history on Stallworth; Borges is just taking liberties that he could not do with the Herald.Papelbon's Poutine said:Did Stallworth have a rap sheet before he played for NE the first time or is Borges seriously citing BB on him for last year?
soxfan121 said:
There are and a quick google search shows he missed practices around November 7th for the birth of the baby and the lingering ankle injury that kept him from playing in London vs. the Rams.
Other, non-baby related missed practices came after the ankle injury in October. Can't find other reports of missed practices but I didn't dig very hard.
jsinger121 said:
On the 30-mile drive to Fayston Street, a war-zone block in the Dorchester neighborhood of Boston
. . .
The Pounceys were questioned as witnesses to the crime, but Hernandez invoked his right to counsel and never gave a statement, most odd since he was also called as a witness.
. . .
Whenever a player popped up where he didn’t belong – a strip joint in Southie or a weed spot in Brockton – Frank Mendes, the team security chief from 1990 to 2003 and a former state trooper himself, would get a call from his cop or statie friends, whether they were on payroll or not.
Yeah but that ruins the narrative.Smiling Joe Hesketh said:
I'll bet these "missed practice" references are actually missed offseason workouts. It's a fine distinction but one the author should have made if true.
The author did make the distinction. It clearly says workouts this spring.Smiling Joe Hesketh said:
I'll bet these "missed practice" references are actually missed offseason workouts. It's a fine distinction but one the author should have made if true.
Myt1 said:
You just can't publish quotes like these:
and maintain any sort of credibility.
Myt1 said:
You just can't publish quotes like these:
and maintain any sort of credibility.
Because Southie isn't in Chinatown.soxfan121 said:
Um, why? I mean, apart from some neighborhood pride, and the fact that they aren't quotes, what saps the credibility?
It's an excellent, must-read article and Borges wrote, at most, two paragraphs of it.
Paradigm said:We knew all this, but those, to me, are the credible quotes that explain that dude was nutso. Patriots players don't go on the record about anything. And what was he doing while he was alone, brushing up on Kant and Aristotle?
According to former Eagles defensive tackle Hollis Thomas, now of WIP-FM in Philadelphia, Asomugha developed the unusual habit of eating lunch in his car instead of joining teammates at the NovaCare Complex during practice breaks.
soxfan121 said:
Um, why? I mean, apart from some neighborhood pride, and the fact that they aren't quotes, what saps the credibility?
It's an excellent, must-read article and Borges wrote, at most, two paragraphs of it.
soxfan121 said:
Um, why? I mean, apart from some neighborhood pride, and the fact that they aren't quotes, what saps the credibility?
It's an excellent, must-read article and Borges wrote, at most, two paragraphs of it.
SeoulSoxFan said:
I don't get how going from not eating with teammates, being a "loner", etc. are "credible quotes" about Hernandez being a nutso.
Would you think Nnamdi Asomugha is a candidate for a murder indictment as well?
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000145489/article/nnamdi-asomugha-reportedly-ate-apart-from-eagles
Ed Hillel said:Do they mention anywhere in the article what happened to Frank Mendes in 2003? I ask genuinely because I have no interest in reading it, given Borges.
One of my best friends is from Foxboro and was Frank Mendes' neighbor. My friend worked in the pro shop for a couple years, too. Anyway, he was apparently fired by Kraft because he got into an altercation with some of Kraft's personal guests on the field. That may be something worth mentioning given that he is the source.
Exactly. Which should make one wonder what else was included because it creates a better story.caesarbear said:Whether there are or aren't strip clubs in Southie is irrelevant to Rolling Stone. It creates a better story if they say "war zone" and "Southie strip club."
Myt1 said:
I used "quotes" because I quoted it, but you're right, that was imprecise.
They're inaccurate. There are parts of Dorchester that have a lot of crime relative to the rest of the city and to what we all would agree is ideal or even reasonable. There is literally no place in the city of Boston that warrants comparison to a war-zone, and I'm not faint-hearted about things like this. It's not at all odd, let alone "most odd" for someone "questioned as a witness" to invoke his right to an attorney, and there are no strip clubs in Southie.
When a professional writer gets basic facts incorrect and makes obviously inaccurate characterizations, it is extremely difficult for me to give them the benefit of the doubt on facts they assert and characterizations they make about things that I'm not in a position to know better.
Smiling Joe Hesketh said:
Not to mention that Mendes was fired 10 fucking years ago. It's not like Mendes was fired and the very next month Hernandez was out shooting up the Roxy.
Paradigm said:Most telling part for me were the anecdotes about Hernandez' behavior around teammates -- Matt Light's quote, him being called a loner.
We knew all this, but those, to me, are the credible quotes that explain that dude was nutso. Patriots players don't go on the record about anything. And what was he doing while he was alone, brushing up on Kant and Aristotle?
Because it's shit theater compared to what should actually be investigative reporting. If Meyer was actually conducting a cover-up why isn't that the story. Why isn't every sport journalist hounding him? Why is no one grilling Reggie Nelson and the Bengals organization over the allegations that he was present at a shooting? Most of all, why aren't the various law enforcement entities that dealt with AH's previous deeds held accountable? Instead we get a FX channel drama of AH shaking the law like a tackle and why not throw in a Patriots scandal angle because that's a proven goldmine.Paradigm said:Man, people really want to hate this article.
Myt1 said:
I used "quotes" because I quoted it, but you're right, that was imprecise.
They're inaccurate. There are parts of Dorchester that have a lot of crime relative to the rest of the city and to what we all would agree is ideal or even reasonable. There is literally no place in the city of Boston that warrants comparison to a war-zone, and I'm not faint-hearted about things like this. It's not at all odd, let alone "most odd" for someone "questioned as a witness" to invoke his right to an attorney, and there are no strip clubs in Southie.
When a professional writer gets basic facts incorrect and makes obviously inaccurate characterizations, it is extremely difficult for me to give them the benefit of the doubt on facts they assert and characterizations they make about things that I'm not in a position to know better.
kenneycb said:Because Southie isn't in Chinatown.
caesarbear said:Because it's shit theater compared to what should actually be investigative reporting. If Meyer was actually conducting a cover-up why isn't that the story. Why isn't every sport journalist hounding him? Why is no one grilling Reggie Nelson and the Bengals organization over the allegations that he was present at a shooting? Most of all, why aren't the various law enforcement entities that dealt with AH's previous deeds held accountable? Instead we get a FX channel drama of AH shaking the law like a tackle and why not throw in a Patriots scandal angle because that's a proven goldmine.
caesarbear said:I'm saying they choose what to write about. It's not an investigative look into the events. It's a selective and creatively drawn story.
How so?Grin&MartyBarret said:
Right. But for some reason you're reacting as if the Patriot's mention is the only element of that.
caesarbear said:If Meyer was actually conducting a cover-up why isn't that the story. Why isn't every sport journalist hounding him?
Bristol was my beat. Ron did the lion's share of Boston. I went up there several times. Met with Odin Lloyd's people, friends, extended family.
But Ron did most of the heavy reporting on the Pats, on the interactions between Hernandez and Belichick this last offseason, the details about what happened out there in California when he was allegedly rehabbing but really just smoking a bunch of angel dust.
Can't I do both? Can't I take issue with this article as an egregious example of infotainment masquerading as journalism?Paradigm said:
You're taking issue with journalism, not this article.
Honest question: was there a strip club there in the 1990s?Myt1 said:
You just can't publish quotes like these:
and maintain any sort of credibility.
Rovin Romine said:While this is just rumor (I assume) PCP use goes quite a ways toward explaining this whole situation, especially in conjunction with thug-life and AH's basic psychology (whatever that may be.)
Most notably, for the AH situation, it's a "dissociative" anesthetic which can exacerbate sometimes latent mental illness, as well as sometimes causing paranoia and a "distance" effect from one's actions. From what I've seen people really do flip out on this stuff. Not all the time - but it occurs.
While PCP use seems pretty rare now-a-days (I think of it as a 70s/80s thing) It's around, and I occasionally run into it in a criminal law context. PCP use often overlaps with some of the more hardcore MJ user subsets, some of them juveniles, mostly urban. It's smoked by dipping cigs or MJ joints into a liquid PCP solution (you buy the "dippers" pre-dipped as it were - you don't buy the liquid). Depending on who is doing the concentration or the actual dipping, the dosage (and effects) can vary widely depending on the batch you get.
General overview/history on PCP: http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pcp/effects.html
Here's one on recent PCP use in Philly: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/04/22/pcp-the-new-rise-of-a-drug-that-turns-teens-crazy.html
(I often thought the Miami Cannibal was on PCP (the taking off of the clothing, the psychotic violence) but he apparently tested clean during a tox screening.)